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Scott Gibb's avatar

“Women should especially read this book.” Yes. It would help their understanding of men.

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Arda Tarwa's avatar

Well, as you say, all the doors are closed and college-educated women are least likely to read this book and adopt the changes. We know because it's been like 20 years as this gradually gets worse and they seem to harden in their views (the PMC class, etc) instead of observing the obvious, that something is quite profoundly wrong, even for them in their point of view and material life.

So, as someone who's thought about it, or even being one yourself in the past, any ideas on how to outreach and bring people across the divide? It seems the entire culture besides them is looking for one, and they've pulled up all the drawbridges and are dropping alligators in the moats.

I realized this is what is going on with the "Statistics say" charts people (largely men) are posting. Now often without comment. Since all events, all discussions, even observations that anything is amiss is a direct attack (which would result in their realizing something and changing) they are now trying raw facts with no discussion and no emotion. ...However, this has no effect whatsoever either, as Harvard Statistics are quite as easily discarded as anything else. ...When it comes to defending wealth, or worse, social status.

It does strike me though we've come to this. It's like a divorcing couple, where one guy will only post charts, screenshot it, and say nothing, while the other seems to break down in an epileptic seizure of words. I suppose if you want to look at it positively, one is ill and well-meaning. The other is loving and trying to help them. How can I say that, being such a pre-biased statement? There is only one Truth, you'll probably find it in statistics, and engaging with that Reality accurately leads to the best outcomes. Look at the alternative: engaging and acting with a fantasy, unrelated to facts or outcomes.

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