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Nathalie Martinek PhD's avatar

Thank you for writing this bold piece. I share your frustration with the way women’s discourse so often devolves into status management, consensus, and emotional reports rather than debate, or at minimum, dialogue. I’ve judged women harshly for it too.

And, I also know that my contempt/resentment isn't only about them. It reflects my own experience of being shunned, shut down, and unseen in groups dominated by women, especially in spiritual circles. The residue of shame for not being seen/accepted expresses as a superiority shame response, where I place myself above the very women I feel excluded by.

At the same time, I don’t see this as only a women’s problem. Men benefit from and participate in these dynamics too, sometimes by withdrawing into silence, sometimes by colluding with the rules of feminised discourse when it serves their interests, and sometimes by weaponising women’s relational style against them. The structural pattern belongs to all of us, even if women carry it more visibly.

For me, the challenge is to hold both truths: the structure is real, and so is my residue, and the responsibility is shared, not one-sided.

Your piece brought that tension into focus again. I appreciate you for describing what most people avoid discussing and for extracting patterns worth paying attention to.

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Rohan Ghostwind's avatar

Well since nobody has commented yet I just want to say that I always enjoy reading your work :)

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